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Who are these people called Baptist? Part 5

It is more than confusion try to keep the ancestry of Philip the King. He is most the time referred to as Herod Philip. He had the unfaithful wife, Herodias, who was responsible for John’s death when John had raised an uproar about her marriage and was embarrassed by John in pubic. She determined to have John put out of the way. All history records the alienation and ire of the Jewish people by the deed she forced Herod into. She asked for the head of John the Baptist by Salome. Herod had made a real stupid promise, all He had to say was I promised you do a gift, I did not offer to commit murder! Sometimes, when men are trying to impress other men they overstepped themselves. In Leviticus 18:16 and 20:21 it was unlawful for a man to have his brother’s wife. Herod was an Edomite, yet, he was bound by a law of God called instinct or nature. It is shameful that a man of such great morality and courage could be so easily killed by a woman who had none. History records that even the Roman world set themselves against Herod. Herodias was stripped of her royalty and sent off to spend the rest of her life with Herod.
In Matthew 14:1-14, Herod conscience had so messed with him that Herod even confused Christ with John the Baptist, like the Baptist Church does today. The guilty conscience(the usual complement of atheism) held no sway with the Christ. Christ was not sympathetic to his plea. Herod got the message of Jesus and John the Baptist confused, he thought John the Baptist preached John was to resurrect from the dead-wrong prophet!!
Preachers may be silenced, and imprisoned, and even banished, but the word of God will still be preached. The prophets may not live forever, but when the word of God seizes control of the hearts and minds of men, it will strive with man. It is true, like the blood of Abel, “blood can cry out of the ground” and “make the devils fear and tremble,” even though they will not repent! They will never be at peace with themselves. There may evidence of the terror of strong conviction yet, no saving conversion!! God accepts no man or woman’s person, all men are subject to the law of God! There may be times that preachers may be indiscreet and get away with it, but sometimes those in authority, without honor, are not restrained from wicked practices. A common error of power is supposed sovereignty.
And so Herod beheaded John. What did that gain him? And in whose eyes was he lifted higher? He who had been a blessing, after his death was now being blessed. A great deal of innocent blood will have been shed before time ends, who will gain? There was a voice silenced, a “burning, shining light was extinguished,” but God was glorified! The damsel and her mother may have triumphed for a moment, but condemned for eternity! Jerome writes that when John’s head was brought her, she gave herself the barbarous diversion of pricking the tongue with a needle. She thought she had stopped his message. She had made sport of a great man, her mother’s insatiable rage had made disciples weep and lament as the world rejoiced, yet like brother Stephen all they got out of it was the burial of the body-from that point on they had no joy, for the removal of this great preacher had advanced the kingdom of God. This was all he had dedicated his life to, anyway!!
Josephus mentions the death of John the Baptist in his book Antiquities 18.116 – 119, and adds, that a fatal destruction of Herod’s Army took place in his war with Arteas, King of the Petrea (whose daughter was Herod’s first wife, whom Herod put away to make room for Herodias). It was generally considered by the Jews to be just judgment upon Herod and Herodias who were both banished to Lyons in France, which says Josephus, was his just punishment for harkening to her solicitation. And lastly, the daughter of Herodias, skating on the ice that winter, fell through the ice, fell headlong, slit her neck on a rock so badly that it was severed from body. God had required her head for that of the Baptist. If true, this was a remarkable act of Providence. Sometimes it just does not pay to do the works of darkness! And where did John end up? In the arms of his beloved Lord! Comfort sometimes have no value, sometimes when taken, show us the “hand of God.”

Who are these people called Baptist? Part 4

When John the baptizer was leaving the scene of life, he turned his report card in to the Creator of all things, Jesus Christ, to be graded. John was now in prison, had he prepared the Way? His grade would be determined by the fulfillment of the prophecy concerning him; ”he came to prepare the way of the Lord, to make his paths straight.” John had heard that Jesus was in the area by the miracles that He was performing, had the “minds of the fathers been turned to the children,” or had the Jew sufficiently repented to accept the message of Christ? Repentance prepares people to receive God but it is faith that prepares people for the blessings of God Handing the baton to the King of Kings and Lord of lords was the most honorable of all occasions. ”I must decrease, He must increase.” It was not given to John to work miracles, the job given him by the Master of all Ages, was even greater. The message that John delivered to the Jew is never preached by the people who today claim his name: wonder why? John had one joy that he claimed for his own, this is the joy of introducing the Bridegroom to His bride. To introduce the bridegroom one has to understand there must be a bride. The bride was and is the church of Christ. John is on record as claiming Jesus Christ to be his friend, John 3:29, when he stood and heard Him, John’s joy was fulfilled. This joy could only be satisfying if the opportunity of this introduction had been received by the Friend. The joy was the occasion of this joy: John proclaimed the forthcoming marriage of Christ and His Church. The Baptist Church today does not preach of this joy, they, in fact, preach that John’s joy has been rescinded and that Christ marriage will not take place until the Second Coming. How could they get so far off message?
There was a message John delivered that John claimed the world would not receive; “The Father loves the Son, and has given all things over into His hand.” This was not an Abraham – Lot situation, no choice in this matter would be by God, allowed!! The Queen would be the closest thing to the heart of the King, the bride would be the closest thing to the heart of her Lord, to denounce the bride to return to His predecessor could never be anything considered at any time. John preach the end of the Jew as the chosen people of God, the Baptist Church today teaches the Jew is still God’s chosen and the church of Christ has no place of honor. How you get this far off message? How could any people who claim to love the God of heaven require Him to denounce His wife and go back to the one He would divorce because of unfaithfulness? The Baptist Church today, had it to attend the preaching of John the Baptist, would throw up its hands in disgust. There was nothing he was preaching-they believe. They do not accept the sole authority of the Son, nor the woman to whose hand He was given in marriage!! The Baptist Church today, does not accept the Father, in that period of time in Judea, marriages were prearranged, by the Father. So what message today do they preach? Jesus said in Matthew 11:6: “Blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in Me.” This word for offended means to see one in another light of which Christ did not approve. You cannot cast the net of the gospel to those who will not receive the message. Wisdom cries in the city at the entry of the gate that we hear the word of the Lord.
The return message of Jesus to John the Baptist made the prison a Palace, fear became nonexistent, and the purpose of a life of service, rewarded. For Christ conveyed to John, in the language befitting his dignity, “well done, my good and faithful servant, enter now into the joys of thy Lord.” Present circumstances being ignored are the benefit of faith. Christ friend and confidant did not need the doting words of approval that the unspiritual often require, he needed the restatement of purpose that both John and Jesus had come to do the will of the Father! If, there be a remaining insecurity and un-belief, it is often settled, in an hour of temptation, by a confidence of faith that only truth can settle!

Who are these people called Baptist? Part 3

What would have been the possibility of John the Baptist starting his own church? Was John Jesus competitor or was he the one sent to introduce the Jew to the Messiah? All the prophecies made of John the Baptist in the Old Testament, did any ever stipulate that he was to ever start a church? By what authority did John baptize people? Was John human and divine-are just human?
In John 3:28, the prophet John the Baptist answered and said, “A man can receive nothing except it be given him from heaven. You yourselves bear Me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before Him. He that hath the bride is the Bridegroom, but the friend of the Bridegroom, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. He must increase, but I must decrease. He that cometh from above is above all, he that is of the earth is earthly, He that cometh from heaven is above all. And what He has seen and heard, that He testifies; and no man receives His testimony. For He whom God has sent speak of the words of God: for God gives not the Spirit by measure to Him. The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand. He that believes on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” John 3:27-36 John was either confused or the Baptist Church teaches a lie when they tell us that John came to start his church, and it was the Baptist Church. Had John started the Baptist Church, when Christ began his church the Baptist Church should have gone out of existence! Paul asked the disciples of John when he came into Ephesus “if they’d receive the Holy Spirit says they believed, they said they’d never heard of there be such a ‘Being’ as the Holy Spirit. He said to them; “John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying under the people that they should believe on Him that should come after him that is on Christ. When they heard this they were baptized in the name of Christ”. Acts 19:1-5 Had John ever started a church, the apostle Paul put it out of business! In the Old Testament we know that Jesus church was prophesied to begin in Jerusalem and Isaiah 2:2-4, the prophet Isaiah said; “and the law shall go forth from Zion and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.” Tell me my friend, one place that states where John’s church would start, where it should go forth, and from what city?
John was sent to introduce Jesus, not compete with the Creator of the universe! “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse” Malachi 4:5-6 John was a human being like you and I. Human beings are not supposed to start churches. Only God is supposed to start the church. John had a father as well as a mother. Jesus never had a physical father!! John had no brothers and sisters. Jesus had four brothers and sisters. John’s mother and daddy died when John was just a child. Christ mother saw him crucified!! Don’t tell me that people can’t tell the difference between John and Jesus!!
John’s message was clear. “Then said they to him, who art thou? That we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself. He answered and said into them, “I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, make straight the way of the Lord as said the prophet Isaiah.” And they which were sent where the Pharisees. And they asked him, and said to him, ‘why baptizes thou then’, if thou be not the Christ, nor Elias, neither that Prophet? John answered them, saying, ‘I baptize with water: but there stands one among you, whom ye know not, He it is whose coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoes latchet I am not worthy to unloose.’ The next day John saw Jesus coming unto to him, and saith, “Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. He is preferred before me: for He was before me. THIS IS WHY I CAME BAPTIZING.

Who are these people called Baptist? Part 2

It is hard for us to conceive the churches and the doctrine that was taught before the 16th century. All England, Scotland, Switzerland, France, and Christianity as a whole had one common baptism that was always a part of every religion. Sprinkling for baptism came about in the second or third century A.D., and was only used in emergencies. As was the case in all of Europe, so the case in the early existence of the Baptist Church that started around 1603-1610 in Holland and Amsterdam where she began. Religious freedom is not something that is considered so sacred today as it was then. When a man lived in a country he was commanded to practice the religion of that country or suffer persecution and death. When King Henry VIII decided to marry Anne of Boleyn, divorce his first wife which the Roman Catholic Church stopped. King Henry started his own church, killed all the Roman Catholic leadership in England and became the head of the Episcopalian church and killed Anne three years, later. The major difference between the Episcopalian church and the Roman Catholic Church was strictly authority. Denying the authority of the Pope in stopping him from divorce, King Henry made himself the head of his own church who could make his own rules! Roman Catholicism had begun to teach sprinkling for baptism as an alternate in the second and third century and made it a part of their religion. Because it’s acceptance became so common among the religious people of the 13th through the 16th century, sprinkling as a mode of baptism was never considered a problem, never thought of it as a deviation from the original “faith once delivered to the saints,” and therefore never came up as an issue! People today, who accept December the 25th as the birthday of Christ or Easter as a celebration of Christianity do the same thing. They accept these lies without question and when questioned, their anger arises! Ask anybody from the Roman Catholic Church about these two religious holy days and they will say you are a heathen if you don’t accept the Pope’s official birthday for the Christ!!
Religious freedom is what caused people to leave England. You had to follow the King of England or die. They actually went there so they could worship God the understanding they had in their hearts. Baptism by immersion was never one of those things. There was no denomination that broke off from the Roman Catholic Church in the 14th to the 17th century that ever gave immersion a thought. Nor was this the reason for the first 80 years of their existence, the Baptist Church practiced sprinkling for baptism. They left England running from the King. Religious freedom was more dear to them than life itself!! Reading the Scriptures was also new to them. They were just getting the Scriptures translated in their own language. The mode of baptism wasn’t even a consideration!! They felt baptism was an “outward sign of an inward grace.” Whether baptism was immersion, sprinkling, or pouring did not matter. To most of them it was not matter of faith, it was not a test of fellowship, nor was it ever something that was considered as relevant to one’s salvation. Baptist separated over who was to be baptized not by what mode!! Those who believed their infant baptism was acceptable to God were called Pedo-baptist while those who believed they had to be re-baptize as adults were called Ana-baptist. It was not until 1680 that the Baptist Church took a stand on Immersion as being the only mode of baptism. This had begun to be discussed around 1640 or 50. Immersion as an action of baptism became the accepted mode without a split!! They were considered a radical movement of Protestant Reformation and like the Mennonites and Quakers, they taught that the converts had to be submitted to a second baptism, which was a crime punishable by death under the legal codes of the time. They repudiated their own baptism as infants as a blasphemous formality. Following the Swiss reformer Huldrych Zwingli, they held infants were not punishable for sin. They followed the Schleitheim Confession of 1527 practiced by a former priest Menno Simons who started the Mennonite church.

Who are these people called Baptist?

We begin this study was no fear or in-trepidation!! Of all the denominations that exist, she has been the most vocal in her insistence of error for the past 500 years! It is our usual approach in our studies to go to the Bible for a book chapter and verse or a thus saith the Lord to find anything on what is supposed to be a biblical subject. I confess to you readily at this time, that I have not been able to find anything in the Bible that mentions the Baptist Church, tells where it started, who started it, the reason our purpose of it starting, or the particular doctrines that she teaches! Having only existed for 500 to 600 years, the people of religion for the first 1600 years knew nothing about such a religious group by name or doctrine. There were glimpses of pre-doctrine some 400 years before she became a religious movement, but the existence of its teachings cannot or have not been found before the 13th century A.D.. Quotations from Baptist historians, claiming themselves to be Baptist, support rather than refute the fact that they just have not existed 1000 years yet!!
To quote from a book written by a gentleman named Benedict called History of the Baptist page 304, states the first regular organized Baptist Church of which we possess any account, is dated from 1607, and was formed in London by a Mr. Smythe, who had been a clergyman in the Church of England. Interestingly, Mr. Smythe was self-baptized. In a book called History of the Baptist, written by a man by the name of Veeder, we read,” sometime about March, 1639, Roger Williams baptized Ezekiel Holloman, who had been a member of his church at Salem: and, Holloman baptized Williams. 11 others obeyed their Lord in this way, and the first Baptist Church in America was formed. This occurred in Providence, Rhode Island. Mr. Veeder informs us that the first official use of the name is in the Baptist catechism issued by the authority of their assembly. There had been no churches before, and hence there was no need of the name. The history of the Baptist churches cannot be carried by the scientific method, farther back than the years 1611, when the first Baptist Church, consisting wholly of Englishmen, was founded in Amsterdam by John Smith. Another author, Mr. Lofton, wrote: The English Baptist Reformation, list eight kinds of Baptist churches that existed in the first 50 years, beginning with 1603. A man by the name of Whittset who wrote a book entitled: A question in Baptist History writes; “immersion was first introduced into England in 1641, and it is a monument of the recent change from sprinkling to immersion.” That the name Baptist first came into use shortly after 1641, is another evidence of the fact in question…. Henceforth they were called baptized Christians, and in due time, Baptist. The earliest instance in which this name occurs as a denominational designation, so far as my information goes, befell in the year to 1644, three years after immersion had been introduced.” According to history the Baptist came from groups who were called Mennonites, who were originally called Waldenses. What were the Waldenses? They were a movement of the religious cultural group which appeared first in Lyon, France and spread to the Alps. They were begun by Peter Waldo, declared to be heretical by the Roman Catholic Church in 1215. On the rise of the Protestant Reformation, church leaders met with Swiss and German Calvinist and agreed to join with the Reformed Church, adopting the Calvinist tenets and becoming its Italian arm as their confession of faith still tells us. Their claim to fame was denying the supremacy of Rome. Interestingly, they kept the Sabbath day- this was later dropped when they joined the larger group. In 1487 Pope Innocent the VIII, issued a bull for the extermination of the Waldenses. The massacre that ensued was so brutal that Oliver Cromwell, then ruler in England, defended them. John Milton’s famous poem, On the late massacre in Piedmont verify their existence. Those who survived came to America on three chartered ships and settled in the Delaware area. There they were championed by their greatest preacher Roger Williams.